Wednesday, December 18th 2024

MSI Releases Memory "Latency Killer" for AMD Ryzen 9000 Series CPUs, up to 12 ns Lower Memory Latency

MSI has unveiled a new performance-enhancing feature for its AM5 socket motherboards to improve DDR5 memory latency. Some latency issues that emerged following AMD's AGESA 1.2.0.2a microcode update, which added support for AMD's Ryzen 9000X3D processors, are now fixed. MSI has baked in its BIOS tuning to develop a new "Latency Killer" feature, which can be found in the advanced menu section, specifically within the overclocking submenu in BIOS of MSI X870E/X870 gaming motherboards like MEG X870E GODLIKE and MPG X870E CARBON WIFI. Users have three options to choose from: Auto, Enabled, and Disabled. While the default behavior of the Auto setting remains unclear, it is believed to be initially disabled to ensure system stability.

Recent benchmark testing of Uniko's Hardware using AIDA64 has demonstrated promising results, showing an eight nanosecond improvement in memory latency when the new feature is activated. The test was conducted using a Ryzen 7 9800X3D processor paired with an MPG X870E Carbon WiFi motherboard and DDR5-8000 CL38 memory, running in High-Efficiency mode at its maximum preset. Some Reddit users with AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D on MSI Tomahawk X870 reported seeing 10-12 ns improvement from enabling the "Latency Killer." MSI motherboards complement its Latency Killer feature with additional memory optimization tools in the BIOS, including EXPO / A-XMP profiles, Memory Try It presets, High-Efficiency Mode, and comprehensive manual overclocking options for enthusiasts seeking maximum performance.
However, MSI has noted potential trade-offs with the feature. According to the BIOS description, while the Latency Killer enhances memory latency performance, it may impact overall CPU performance. The feature restores memory latency to levels seen before AGESA 1.2.0.2a microcode update rather than providing magical improvements. This way, users don't have to flash their systems with older AGESA BIOS versions. For most users, particularly those with X3D-equipped Ryzen processors featuring 96 MB L3 cache, the few nanosecond latency differences will help during regular usage, including gaming. The enhancement primarily targets enthusiast users and extreme overclockers who prioritize maximum system performance. MSI stated that all MSI AM5 series motherboards are now getting this feature, and it works with all Ryzen 9000 series processors
Source: MSI
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12 Comments on MSI Releases Memory "Latency Killer" for AMD Ryzen 9000 Series CPUs, up to 12 ns Lower Memory Latency

#1
phanbuey
Unfortunately on my B650 touching any of these settings apart from expo messes with my frame pacing with the 9800x3d and causes stutters. Leaving everything at auto or disabling Latency Killer is super smooth though... need less buggy bios left this off for now.

Also only performance benefits seems to be mostly in AIDA - everything else is the same or worse.
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#2
nguyen
phanbueyUnfortunately on my B650 touching any of these settings apart from expo messes with my frame pacing with the 9800x3d and causes stutters. Leaving everything at auto or disabling Latency Killer is super smooth though... need less buggy bios left this off for now.

Also only performance benefits seems to be mostly in AIDA - everything else is the same or worse.
Man that saves me all the trouble, I was considering updating BIOS for a moment there, still using stock BIOS that came with the board
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#3
Jism
I like it how AMD releases a AGESA bios fix and motherboard vendors now rebranding it with a different name. As if it was any exclusive to MSI only.
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#4
_roman_
I want to see the hole windows 11 pro read out software page for the DRAM. Which memory modules and type.
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#5
user556
nguyenMan that saves me all the trouble, I was considering updating BIOS for a moment there, still using stock BIOS that came with the board
He's saying to use the "auto" settings of the latest firmware, not to not update the firmware!
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kapone32
A whole 12 nanoseconds. Who can even feel that?
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#7
Veseleil
kapone32A whole 12 nanoseconds. Who can even feel that?
Your frame times. If this wasn't just a marketing trick.

As @phanbuey said, it's just a specific benchmark score booster - and we had all kind of those features on our motherboards since benchmarks became a thing. Mostly causing problems or useless, than anything more of a real value.
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#8
arbiter
that memory bandwidth though is little bit of an ooooof if that is what it runs at. ddr5 8000 memory should be 110+GB/sec not 85 or 59 as on x3d part. that is what i get on ddr5-7000 memory.

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ssateneth
arbiterthat memory bandwidth though is little bit of an ooooof if that is what it runs at. ddr5 8000 memory should be 110+GB/sec not 85 or 59 as on x3d part. that is what i get on ddr5-7000 memory.

its because thats how ryzen works with only 1 ccd. 2 ccd will increase bandwidth. but keep in mind aida mem bandwidth is multithreaded. a single ccd load cannot take advantage of dual ccd bandwidth to double its bandwidth. ultimately it doesnt matter because it had enough bandwidth to be the gaming king.
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#10
Jtuck9
ssatenethits because thats how ryzen works with only 1 ccd. 2 ccd will increase bandwidth. but keep in mind aida mem bandwidth is multithreaded. a single ccd load cannot take advantage of dual ccd bandwidth to double its bandwidth. ultimately it doesnt matter because it had enough bandwidth to be the gaming king.
I'm toying with the idea of buying something like a 9900x and pairing it with 8000 RAM for gaming, mainly due to cost. Is it really worth paying the extra for an X3D processor If I'm mostly gaming? Considering ZEN 6 X3D is supposedly going with 12 cores perhaps I'm holding out hope that games will start taking advantage of them (Unreal Engine 5.4). Plus weren't some of the latency issues with dual CCD resolved recently?! Someone please talk me out of my foolish ways.
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#11
Veseleil
Jtuck9Is it really worth paying the extra for an X3D processor If I'm mostly gaming?
Absolutely. It's worth every damn penny.
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#12
leonavis
kapone32A whole 12 nanoseconds. Who can even feel that?
Well, when it's from 80 to 68, that's not insignificant.
Jtuck9Is it really worth paying the extra for an X3D processor If I'm mostly gaming?
That's basically the only usecase where an X3D-processor is worth it.
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