I don't care about fake frames or fake resolution, show me pure raster performance

Oh boy, I actually feel sorry for reviewers, this is going to be a very busy Q1 lol :D

if(gpu.modelNumber > 5000)
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NiceumemuI don't care about fake frames or fake resolution, show me pure raster performance

Progress denier. I see

Marketing: 5070 will be faster than 4090 with DLSS4!

Before you guys make stupid comments about latency, the latency is actually the same (Nvidia has a video comparing DLSS FG vs Multi-Frame DLSS FG). They also just released Reflex 2 which further reduces latency by 50%.
So more generated frames but LOWER latency at the same time.

Od1sseasProgress denier. I see

Amazing isn’t it? Show me progress in decade old gams, not the games that are coming out in 2025.

Od1sseasProgress denier. I see

I don't consider faking things progress, especially when it comes with noticeable impacts on quality and latency
If you like it, and you cant notice the impacts yourself, I won't stop you but what I'm interested in is raster

By the way, Am I the only one who have the feeling that 5090 is ultra slow garbage that is barely doing 30 fps in 4k when DLSS is disabled? Its not me, its Nvidia's own claim

Visible NoiseAmazing isn’t it? Show me progress in decade old gams, not the games that are coming out in 2025.

Funny you say that when plenty of decade old games look better than some of the new AAA slop.
Progress isn't faking things with lower resolution.

NiceumemuI don't consider faking things progress, especially when it comes with noticeable impacts on quality and latency
If you like it, and you cant notice the impacts yourself, I won't stop you but what I'm interested in is raster

If you knew anything about computer graphics you would know that raster as a whole is 100% fake. They are just TERRIBLE approximations of how real lighting works.

Hecate91Funny you say that when plenty of decade old games look better than some of the new AAA slop.
Progress isn't faking things with lower resolution.

Progress is running things at a lower resolutions but still looking better than traditional native resolution.
DLSS 4 SR has done it.

Od1sseasProgress is running things at a lower resolutions but still looking better than traditional native resolution.
DLSS 4 SR has done it.

I don't consider progress having to spend $1000+ on a new gpu to have the newest features, only to lower the resolution while adding AI generated frames.
Also wait for real benchmarks, we have yet to see how it looks or how the latency is.

Visible NoiseAmazing isn’t it? Show me progress in decade old gams, not the games that are coming out in 2025.

How much more FPS could you possibly need in Doom?

Od1sseasProgress is running things at a lower resolutions but still looking better than traditional native resolution.
DLSS 4 SR has done it.

So DLSS will look better than DLAA which is native resolution, got it.

Of everything 50 series, this interests me the least, but I can see why Nvidia is playing the hand strongly, this could end up looking and working extremely well in certain titles.

Od1sseasBefore you guys make stupid comments about latency, the latency is actually the same (Nvidia has a video comparing DLSS FG vs Multi-Frame DLSS FG). They also just released Reflex 2 which further reduces latency by 50%.
So more generated frames but LOWER latency at the same time.

Yes, I noticed this too, that is amazing if you think about it, as someone extremely sensitive to latencies, I can't wait to give this a spin. :D

I think everyone needs to remember this will be good for high refresh rate panels whether or not you want to use it at a low framerate to begin with (I won't). With how high the refresh rates are now, turning on what could be the best FG implementation yet in any game with DLSSG already implemented alongside the further enhanced upscaler can certainly help elevate users to those refresh rates. That's what I'm most excited about, being able to use a 240hz monitor outside of competitive games with (hopefully) lossless fidelity.

usinameBy the way, Am I the only one who have the feeling that 5090 is ultra slow garbage that is barely doing 30 fps in 4k when DLSS is disabled? Its not me, its Nvidia's own claim

To be fair, it does say that either Path Tracing or RT Max is enabled, so the GPU is getting hammered hard with DLSS OFF.

I worry about the latency it introduces, but then, you could of course just not use it.

Also, man are some members here open to stupid debates, could as well be bots....

usinameif(gpu.modelNumber > 5000)
{DLSS4 = true}
else
{DLSS4 = false}

No man, there are very serious and complex reasons why they couldn't generate the extra frames on older cards. You know, despite the fact that Lossless Scaling introduced 4x frame generation six months ago and it works on everything.

ZoneDymoI worry about the latency it introduces, but then, you could of course just not use it.

Also, man are some members here open to stupid debates, could as well be bots....

Lol if you are not going to use it then there is not much point in upgrading to the 50 series as its only about 20% faster without the MFG nonsense.

usinameif(gpu.modelNumber > 5000)
{DLSS4 = true}
else
{DLSS4 = false}

I'm not sure the cynicism works, chief. Note that NV did not disable any of the new features on Ada hardware and they also allowed the new enhanced DLSS super resolution and ray reconstruction features to run on hardware as old as Turing. MFG obviously require faster hardware only present in Blackwell, and the one thing people hyperfocused on the 4x frame generation model haven't figured out that with this ample optical flow performance, lowering the generation factor to 3 or back to 2 will probably result in a more accurate image with frame generation on over Ada.

I can't wait to see the tests, but nobody with an existing GeForce RTX card is being shafted out of features and this is a first for NV in a very long time. People who bought an RTX 2080 almost 7 years ago are getting new features, while the 5700 XT can barely run games since it's downlevel hardware below 12_2 base and the driver support is terrible.

Not to mention they still haven't retired Maxwell support to this day. I'm impressed. It'll probably happen soon, but I'd wager that at least the initial Blackwell branch driver will run on GPUs as old as the 750 Ti. That's insane. 3 weeks to find out.

Dr. DroI'm not sure the cynicism works, chief. Note that NV did not disable any of the new features on Ada hardware and they also allowed the new enhanced DLSS super resolution and ray reconstruction features to run on hardware as old as Turing. MFG obviously require faster hardware only present in Blackwell, and the one thing people hyperfocused on the 4x frame generation model haven't figured out that with this ample optical flow performance, lowering the generation factor to 3 or back to 2 will probably result in a more accurate image with frame generation on over Ada.

I can't wait to see the tests, but nobody with an existing GeForce RTX card is being shafted out of features and this is a first for NV in a very long time. People who bought an RTX 2080 almost 7 years ago are getting new features, while the 5700 XT can barely run games since it's downlevel hardware below 12_2 base and the driver support is terrible.

Not to mention they still haven't retired Maxwell support to this day. I'm impressed. It'll probably happen soon, but I'd wager that at least the initial Blackwell branch driver will run on GPUs as old as the 750 Ti. That's insane. 3 weeks to find out.

Huang won't give you extra discount

I mean, if you can get great latencies, with Multi-FG and the image looks like this in motion, then well, gg, gg:

549$ for upgrading my 1080, i´m in.