Wednesday, February 19th 2025

NVIDIA's 32-Bit PhysX Waves Goodbye with GeForce RTX 50 Series Ending 32-Bit CUDA Software Support

The days of 32-bit software support in NVIDIA's drivers are coming to an end, and with that, so does the support for the once iconic PhysX real-time physics engine. According to NVIDIA's engineers on GeForce forums, the lack of PhysX support has been quietly acknowledged, as NVIDIA's latest GeForce RTX 50 series of GPUs are phasing out support for 32-bit CUDA software, slowly transitioning the gaming world to the 64-bit software entirely. While older NVIDIA GPUs from the Maxwell through Ada generations will maintain 32-bit CUDA support, this update breaks backward compatibility for physics acceleration in legacy PC games on new GPUs. Users running these titles on RTX 50 series cards may need to rely on CPU-based PhysX processing, which could result in suboptimal performance compared to previous GPU generations.

A Reddit user reported frame rates dropping below 60 FPS in Borderlands 2 while using basic game mechanics with a 9800X3D CPU and RTX 5090 GPU, all because 32-bit CUDA application support on Blackwell architecture is depreciated. When another user booted up a 64-bit PhysX application, Batman Arkham Knight, PhysX worked perfectly, as expected. It is just that a massive list of older games, which gamers would sometimes prefer to play, is now running a lot slower on the most powerful consumer GPU due to the phase-out of 32-bit CUDA app support.
Here is a comprehensive list of games that use 32-bit PhysX, which will be runnin slower if the latest GeForce RTX 50 series is used, nicely compiled by a Resetera forum user: Monster Madness: Battle for Suburbia, Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2, Crazy Machines 2, Unreal Tournament 3, Warmonger: Operation Downtown Destruction, Hot Dance Party, QQ Dance, Hot Dance Party II, Sacred 2: Fallen Angel, Cryostasis: Sleep of Reason, Mirror's Edge, Armageddon Riders, Darkest of Days, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Sacred 2: Ice & Blood, Shattered Horizon, Star Trek DAC, Metro 2033, Dark Void, Blur, Mafia II, Hydrophobia: Prophecy, Jianxia 3, Alice: Madness Returns, MStar, Batman: Arkham City, 7554, Depth Hunter, Deep Black, Gas Guzzlers: Combat Carnage, The Secret World, Continent of the Ninth (C9), Borderlands 2, Passion Leads Army, QQ Dance 2, Star Trek, Mars: War Logs, Metro: Last Light, Rise of the Triad, The Bureau: XCOM Declassified, Batman: Arkham Origins, and Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag.
Sources: Reddit, Resetera Forums
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64 Comments on NVIDIA's 32-Bit PhysX Waves Goodbye with GeForce RTX 50 Series Ending 32-Bit CUDA Software Support

#51
Athena
Overall, this really won't have a impact in playing the game(s) at all

sure, you will lose the proprietary physX additions, but, tbh, they never were a game changer, which is why many AMD & Intel gamers could play the same gave just fine just with a bit less eye candy

If Nvidia really wanted to help, they would fully open source the GPU physX implementation, and then people could make wrappers that convert the physX calls to something else. Pretty much how they did it with GLide wrappers, and some other APIs as well

but, they won't since, they are Nvidia
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#52
unwind-protect
maxli86Unless Steam release a legacy/retro client version for older Windows so people can play retro games on older hardware.
They can't. Their GUI is based on Electron, and Google has dropped Windows versions before 10 from development.
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#53
Visible Noise
ZoneDymoThey did, but lets be honest, because Nvidia is a dumbass and made it proprietary, we never actually got games that really were build around physics.... it was just effects (sometimes ugly as hell) that were added on top, but nothing fundamental, no game needed it to function.
I think you have mixed up which company is the “dumbass”.
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#54
[XC] Oj101
maxli86Most games can run on Win 10 but some will have bugs/issues on newer OS like crashing.
Unfornuately Steam is no longer able to run on Win 7/8.1, my old rig has this error which says.
"Steam is no longer supported on your operating system."
Very irony some of the games come from that era, no workaround for this.
Unless Steam release a legacy/retro client version for older Windows so people can play retro games on older hardware.
It never stopped working for me. I probably won't be able to reinstall it if removed, and it doesn't update anymore, but...


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#55
ZoneDymo
Visible NoiseI think you have mixed up which company is the “dumbass”.
AMD/Intel is the dumbass for not being allowed to use a technology that could have moved gaming forward?
You have to explain that logic to me.
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#56
maxli86
[XC] Oj101It never stopped working for me. I probably won't be able to reinstall it if removed, and it doesn't update anymore, but...


If you still have the older Steam client version than you still be able to run it.
Unless you uninstall it than install concurrent version than it won't be able to launch.
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#57
Prima.Vera
So, can you use the older drivers then?
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#58
Upgrayedd
Ah PhysX.. one of my favorite forgotten tech.

An interesting thing about 2nd GPUs for PhysX are not the better frame rates but the much better frame times. Running on a single card was basically as stuttery as bad SLI implementation.
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#59
unwind-protect
I highly doubt that the NVidia drivers allow the use of two GPUs, one of them for Physx.

I mean they could but I bet they don't.
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#60
Upgrayedd
unwind-protectI highly doubt that the NVidia drivers allow the use of two GPUs, one of them for Physx.

I mean they could but I bet they don't.
That's how 2nd GPU PhysX has always worked
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#61
Apocalypsee
Idk how to react to this, despite its flaws, I love PhysX. If you play with it enabled, you will miss it when you play without. It's like old lost tech like EAX and such. I can't play Doom3 for example without EAX it just sounds wrong. IMO the best thing to do is to build other PC with older nvidia GPU and run older driver to play those PhysX games
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#62
maxli86
ApocalypseeIdk how to react to this, despite its flaws, I love PhysX. If you play with it enabled, you will miss it when you play without. It's like old lost tech like EAX and such. I can't play Doom3 for example without EAX it just sounds wrong. IMO the best thing to do is to build other PC with older nvidia GPU and run older driver to play those PhysX games
Some games like Doom 3 does run better on older hardware than newer one.
Especially Sound Blaster support which in modern times many games have drop support.
Which is why I still have a old Win 7 PC solely for retro but sadly Steam won't work anymore.
Probably have to find other ways to play these old games like through CD.
Haven't test EAX for so long maybe once I sought out how to access these old games.
I will try again cuz I still have a old Creative sound blaster Recon3d with EAX support.
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#63
Apocalypsee
maxli86Some games like Doom 3 does run better on older hardware than newer one.
Especially Sound Blaster support which in modern times many games have drop support.
Which is why I still have a old Win 7 PC solely for retro but sadly Steam won't work anymore.
Probably have to find other ways to play these old games like through CD.
Haven't test EAX for so long maybe once I sought out how to access these old games.
I will try again cuz I still have a old Creative sound blaster Recon3d with EAX support.
Same here, I got Windows XP retro gaming PC to play older PC titles. Recon3D can emulate EAX but it didn't sound as good as hardware EAX mind you, last hardware EAX was X-Fi, or maybe Audigy 4.

We got off topic here, but I would retain old hardware with appropriate driver to run these games at their best IMO.
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#64
Prima.Vera
maxli86Some games like Doom 3 does run better on older hardware than newer one.
Especially Sound Blaster support which in modern times many games have drop support.
Which is why I still have a old Win 7 PC solely for retro but sadly Steam won't work anymore.
Probably have to find other ways to play these old games like through CD.
Haven't test EAX for so long maybe once I sought out how to access these old games.
I will try again cuz I still have a old Creative sound blaster Recon3d with EAX support.
I would recommend playing Unreal 1, DeusEx1, Thief 1/2, F.E.A.R (all), Doom 3, COD 2, Descent: Freespace 1/2, etc, on Windows XP machine with EAX 3. The way those games sounded with A3D or EAX never got a match, not even with the latest 2024 AAA games. It is really sad.
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