Friday, March 26th 2021

ASRock Rack Puts AMD Ryzen 5000 Series Processor in 1U Short Depth Server

ASRock Rack, a division of ASRock dedicated to server/enterprise products, has today quietly launched a 1U short depth server, equipped with AMD's X570 motherboards, able to accommodate AMD Ryzen 5000 series of processors. The 1U2-X570/2T, as ASRock calls it, features an X570D4I-2T motherboard that is capable of housing any AMD Ryzen and Ryzen Pro 5000 series processor with TDP up to 105 Watts, paired with up to four SO-DIMMs of DDR4 ECC memory. Being a remote desktop/server type of build, the 1U case is not designed to be equipped with any powerful discrete graphics card. There is room for the motherboard, the power supply, and the HDDs located next to the motherboard.

Equipped with an 80-Plus Bronze 265 Watt PSU, the system can handle almost any CPU it is equipped with, two 3.5" drives and two 2.5" 7 mm drives. The motherboard also supports M.2 2280 SSD with PCIe 4.0 protocol support. When it comes to basic graphics output, ASRock Rack has installed an ASPEED AST2500 graphics controller to handle basic video output and display the command line, so you can operate with your server with ease. When it comes to networking, it is equipped with dual RJ45 10 GbE connectors, coming from an Intel X550-AT2 Ethernet controller. For more details, head over to the ASRock Rack 1U2-X570/2T product page.
Source: via Tom's Hardware
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22 Comments on ASRock Rack Puts AMD Ryzen 5000 Series Processor in 1U Short Depth Server

#1
Patriot
Bronze, in 2021... Asrock come the fuck on. Also not supporting Milan on the boards that support Rome... Get fucked....
Asrock makes interesting one-off products, but their support is extremely lackluster.
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#2
1d10t
PatriotBronze, in 2021... Asrock come the fuck on. Also not supporting Milan on the boards that support Rome... Get fucked....
Asrock makes interesting one-off products, but their support is extremely lackluster.
Even worse, it doesn't have the proper SATA power cable.
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#3
bencrutz
1d10tEven worse, it doesn't have the proper SATA power cable.
it's a SATA power connector, not molex :confused:
and it comes with IPMI
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#4
Chrispy_
Hmmm, not sure what the point of these are. If they're "compute blades" then why make them half-depth? Rack space where density matters is premium real estate. You don't waste half a cabinet by making something short-depth

If they're designed to go in half-depth comms racks then why make them 1U? Comms racks can't handle the heat or power density of cramming in a couple of hundred Watts per U.
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#5
Punkenjoy
Chrispy_Hmmm, not sure what the point of these are. If they're "compute blades" then why make them half-depth? Rack space where density matters is premium real estate. You don't waste half a cabinet by making something short-depth

If they're designed to go in half-depth comms racks then why make them 1U? Comms racks can't handle the heat or power density of cramming in a couple of hundred Watts per U.
They can be installed in H-Frame rack instead of full rack like switches. Many company still need to have a local server and have multiple branch. They don't necessarely need full rack, sometime H-Frame is more than enough except for the server. Most of the time they will use tower server but this give them an alternative option.
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#6
Operandi
PunkenjoyThey can be installed in H-Frame rack instead of full rack like switches. Many company still need to have a local server and have multiple branch. They don't necessarely need full rack, sometime H-Frame is more than enough except for the server. Most of the time they will use tower server but this give them an alternative option.
Exactly, this would perfect for small scale PBX, IP camera or similar server for a business that doesn't have a full IT cabinet. This would fit in right the same rack with a switch and router, and is a much better option than a pedestal sever thats going to get kicked around, unplugged and exposed to dust.

The Bronze PSU dosn't really matter since its max of 100 watt CPU, not being redundant sucks but there may not be any options that would fit that short depth.
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#7
DeathtoGnomes
Intel gonna be JEALOUS !!!
OperandiThe Bronze PSU dosn't really matter since its max of 100 watt CPU, not being redundant sucks but there may not be any options that would fit that short depth.
Redundency has becoming less important, psu failure rate has dropped a lot over the years. Major server racks still needs it, but not so much in a SOHO environment, depending on it usage tho.
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#8
Chrispy_
OperandiExactly, this would perfect for small scale PBX, IP camera or similar server for a business that doesn't have a full IT cabinet. This would fit in right the same rack with a switch and router, and is a much better option than a pedestal sever thats going to get kicked around, unplugged and exposed to dust.

The Bronze PSU dosn't really matter since its max of 100 watt CPU, not being redundant sucks but there may not be any options that would fit that short depth.
My experience with these sort of branch offices is that they don't have a proper server room and as a result, something that has 3 screaming delta fans and a tiny 1U PSU is not going to be welcome as it'll likely be in the same space as where people are supposed to be working.

I dunno, maybe this one bucks the trend and actually doesn't sound like a hairdryer but the overwhelming majority of 1U systems are noisy little buggers and this thing has four 40x36m fans in it that likely run at 5000+ RPM.
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#9
Operandi
DeathtoGnomesIntel gonna be JEALOUS !!!


Redundency has becoming less important, psu failure rate has dropped a lot over the years. Major server racks still needs it, but not so much in a SOHO environment, depending on it usage tho.
True but if I'm gona pick faults with this thats the first one I see, and if it can prevent downtime I'm for it.
Chrispy_My experience with these sort of branch offices is that they don't have a proper server room and as a result, something that has 3 screaming delta fans and a tiny 1U PSU is not going to be welcome as it'll likely be in the same space as where people are supposed to be working.

I dunno, maybe this one bucks the trend and actually doesn't sound like a hairdryer but the overwhelming majority of 1U systems are noisy little buggers and this thing has four 40x36m fans in it that likely run at 5000+ RPM.
It only has to deal with 100 watts of heat so it depends on how well they are controlled. Besides I see this going in a closet or some corner where the networking consolidates not by someones desk.
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#10
dragontamer5788
Chrispy_Hmmm, not sure what the point of these are. If they're "compute blades" then why make them half-depth? Rack space where density matters is premium real estate. You don't waste half a cabinet by making something short-depth

If they're designed to go in half-depth comms racks then why make them 1U? Comms racks can't handle the heat or power density of cramming in a couple of hundred Watts per U.
I'm guessing the small 12U quarter-racks that sit in some people's offices?

Space is a premium but you don't have much density (cause its an office, not a dedicated server room).
Chrispy_My experience with these sort of branch offices is that they don't have a proper server room and as a result, something that has 3 screaming delta fans and a tiny 1U PSU is not going to be welcome as it'll likely be in the same space as where people are supposed to be working.
Yeah. That's... true. 1U is very very loud.
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#11
silentbogo
What I'm interested in, is that chassis. It looks cheap, but functional and it's exactly what I need!
1U mini with front I/O or two-sided drives me nuts over the past year and a half. One of my clients has OCD, so he postponed setting up the second server room just because he wants that stupid front I/O.
Tried finding old Supermicro cases w/ front-facing I/O - no luck buying it separately, only finding idiots who's asking upwards of $300 for useless Atom D2550 servers (for perspecitve, an entire X9SCL-F rig w/ E5-1230v2 & 16GB RAM cost me less).
Third party - usually some garbage made out of tin foil, and has PSU facing forward as well, along with jerry-rigged power button in some random spot... :banghead:

AsRock, please tell me where you get these cases! I'll be a good boy and recommend your stuff to all of my friends and co-workers! :D
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#12
Hardware Geek
Chrispy_My experience with these sort of branch offices is that they don't have a proper server room and as a result, something that has 3 screaming delta fans and a tiny 1U PSU is not going to be welcome as it'll likely be in the same space as where people are supposed to be working.

I dunno, maybe this one bucks the trend and actually doesn't sound like a hairdryer but the overwhelming majority of 1U systems are noisy little buggers and this thing has four 40x36m fans in it that likely run at 5000+ RPM.
I can attest to this. My company has a server in each office but it's always a tower and often we don't have a back room to put it in. While I love this idea, it wouldn't work for my company.
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#13
Wirko
How long do four stacked hard disks survive without proper cooling?
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#14
Chrispy_
WirkoHow long do four stacked hard disks survive without proper cooling?
The cooling in this thing is going to be absolutely fine.
The noise it makes will not be.



54dBa each, one in the PSU, three in the chassis, almost 12K rpm for a horrible-high pitched whine that is right at the most sensitive human hearing frequencies so that it feels more like 154dBa. This is server hardware where temperature is all the matters and your eardrums are irrelevant because why would anyone choose to be in a server room longer than absolutely necessary, especially without ear defenders?

I'm not blaming Asrack, this is what all 1U servers use - it's a necessity.
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#15
Wirko
Chrispy_The cooling in this thing is going to be absolutely fine.
The noise it makes will not be.

54dBa each, one in the PSU, three in the chassis, almost 12K rpm for a horrible-high pitched whine that is right at the most sensitive human hearing frequencies so that it feels more like 154dBa. This is server hardware where temperature is all the matters and your eardrums are irrelevant because why would anyone choose to be in a server room longer than absolutely necessary, especially without ear defenders?

I'm not blaming Asrack, this is what all 1U servers use - it's a necessity.
The three fans do move air well enough over the motherboard, but not around the disks. The disks would require one more deep fan behind them (or two shallow ones as there's little space), and also some barriers in the right places to direct the air. That would be necessary if there are both 3.5" disks in place, and so much more if there are all four. I'm assuming that the 2.5" disks are tightly packed below the 3.5" ones.

As for why would anyone choose to be in a server room longer than absolutely necessary: in summer, with poor quality A/C in the office, it may be absolutely necessary to spend some more time with the little fans.
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#16
Chrispy_
WirkoThe three fans do move air well enough over the motherboard, but not around the disks. The disks would require one more deep fan behind them (or two shallow ones as there's little space), and also some barriers in the right places to direct the air. That would be necessary if there are both 3.5" disks in place, and so much more if there are all four. I'm assuming that the 2.5" disks are tightly packed below the 3.5" ones.

As for why would anyone choose to be in a server room longer than absolutely necessary: in summer, with poor quality A/C in the office, it may be absolutely necessary to spend some more time with the little fans.
Most rack servers are designed for entrainment - there are such huge pressure differentials caused by these screamy bois that front-to-back airflow will take any airpath it can, even indirect airpath that seems quite far out of the way of fans' airflow.

Unless a specific component is shrouded (usually CPU), entrainment of air is a major factor in all server cooling. If this design didn't work, 90% of the servers in operation today would overheat because it's a principle that the overwhelming majority of all rack servers ever made depend on.
WirkoThe three fans do move air well enough over the motherboard, but not around the disks. The disks would require one more deep fan behind them (or two shallow ones as there's little space), and also some barriers in the right places to direct the air. That would be necessary if there are both 3.5" disks in place, and so much more if there are all four. I'm assuming that the 2.5" disks are tightly packed below the 3.5" ones.

As for why would anyone choose to be in a server room longer than absolutely necessary: in summer, with poor quality A/C in the office, it may be absolutely necessary to spend some more time with the little fans.
I go and hide in the server rooms occasionally just to stand in a 17C environment for a few minutes, not gonna lie ;)
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#17
DAWMan
Great motherboard. Just use a Supermicro CSE-512f-441/600B if you need more storage.
Somebody might like this chassis, I just like the boards they make.

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#18
trom89
This isn't a server, this is a PC on a 1U case.
No redundant hot swappable PSU's, no hotswappable HDD's, there is a x16 PCIex port but no mezzanine, no dedicated RAID controller, I/O ports at the front...
I can only imagine the pain of searching for a replacement board when it fails after the warranty is over...
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#19
Operandi
Chrispy_The cooling in this thing is going to be absolutely fine.
The noise it makes will not be.



54dBa each, one in the PSU, three in the chassis, almost 12K rpm for a horrible-high pitched whine that is right at the most sensitive human hearing frequencies so that it feels more like 154dBa. This is server hardware where temperature is all the matters and your eardrums are irrelevant because why would anyone choose to be in a server room longer than absolutely necessary, especially without ear defenders?

I'm not blaming Asrack, this is what all 1U servers use - it's a necessity.
This isn't a high density compute 1U blade and not all 40mm fans spin 12,000 RPM. This thing has a max CPU 100 watt support and 300 watt PSU, there isn't any reason why would have crazy high-rpm fans like that. More to the point as long as they are well controlled it really doesn't matter what their max RPM is as long as they react to thermals properly, and again ~100 watts of heat here...

As for the hard drives as long as there is air moving around them and there isn't like 4+ stacked together (which there isn't here) they'll be with essentially passive cooling.

Also unless the walls are coming in around you nothing sounds like 154 dBA a server room, if you ever heard anything in the 120 dBA range you wouldn't say that.
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#20
Chrispy_
OperandiThis isn't a high density compute 1U blade and not all 40mm fans spin 12,000 RPM. This thing has a max CPU 100 watt support and 300 watt PSU, there isn't any reason why would have crazy high-rpm fans like that. More to the point as long as they are well controlled it really doesn't matter what their max RPM is as long as they react to thermals properly, and again ~100 watts of heat here...

As for the hard drives as long as there is air moving around them and there isn't like 4+ stacked together (which there isn't here) they'll be with essentially passive cooling.

Also unless the walls are coming in around you nothing sounds like 154 dBA a server room, if you ever heard anything in the 120 dBA range you wouldn't say that.
Whoosh, you missed the sarcasm. 154dBA was just me adding a hundred to the rated dBA value for obvious dramatic effect.

At 140dBA your eardrums would rupture, your cochlear would be instagibbed and you'd never hear another sound ever again. To give you some context, 142dBA is the volume level recorded from the blast pit when the space shuttle used to take off. 120dBA is very painful and will cause lasting damage very quickly. 110dBA is "mosh pit at a very loud rock concert" and you won't have trouble finding people who are deaf now because they went to enough concents when they were young.
trom89This isn't a server, this is a PC on a 1U case.
No redundant hot swappable PSU's, no hotswappable HDD's, there is a x16 PCIex port but no mezzanine, no dedicated RAID controller, I/O ports at the front...
I can only imagine the pain of searching for a replacement board when it fails after the warranty is over.
The chassis and PSU are standard mITX layout. Even if you can't get an exact replacement board, the worst case scenario is you have to do a bit of dremmel work to the IO shield to line up with ports on the alternative board.

Asrock and others all make mITX server/workstation boards. They're a commodity item in the channel even if you don't see them on consumer retailers.
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#21
Operandi
Chrispy_Whoosh, you missed the sarcasm. 154dBA was just me adding a hundred to the rated dBA value for obvious dramatic effect.

At 140dBA your eardrums would rupture, your cochlear would be instagibbed and you'd never hear another sound ever again. To give you some context, 142dBA is the volume level recorded from the blast pit when the space shuttle used to take off. 120dBA is very painful and will cause lasting damage very quickly. 110dBA is "mosh pit at a very loud rock concert" and you won't have trouble finding people who are deaf now because they went to enough concents when they were young.
Yah, missed the 100+ thing, a lot of people don't get the dBA scale and exaggerated things. Anything over 90dBA is crazy loud, if you hear 154dBa i'ts probably the last thing you hear.

To the point though there isn't any reason this has would be particularly loud given its power limits and assuming good fan control. All the Supermicro, and Seasonic 1U PSUs I've worked with have very, very quiet at normal loads and those are all using 40mm fans.
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#22
Chrispy_
I think this should be quiet for a 1U rack system. Quiet and loud are relative terms and yes, even some of the very power-dense 1U systems I've encountered have sounded reasonable at low loads.

Impossible to say without seeing what the motherboard fan-control is like in the BIOS, and what exact model of fan and PSU are used but this is a budget system though which probably means cheaper noisy fans and I cannot read the label but that looks like an 80+ Bronze sticker so we're definitely talking cheapo PSU.



Again, nothing wrong with any of that given the right pricing, but definitely provides more evidence that this will be at the louder end of expectations if we're forced to make educated guesses. It's cheaper to use fewer, smaller heatsinks and crank up those fan RPMs.
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