Tuesday, September 3rd 2024
Intel "Arrow Lake" and "Lunar Lake" Are Safe from Voltage Stability Issues, Company Reports
Intel's 13th and 14th generation processors, codenamed "Raptor Lake" and "Raptor Lake Refresh," have been notoriously riddled with stability issues over the past few months, up until Intel shipped the 0x129 microcode update on August 10 to fix these issues. However, the upcoming Intel Core Ultra 200 "Arrow Lake" and 200V series "Lunar Lake" processors will not have these issues as the company confirmed that an all-new design is used, even for the segment of power regulation. The official company note states: "Intel confirms that its next generation of processors, codenamed Arrow Lake and Lunar Lake, are not affected by the Vmin Shift Instability issue due to the new architectures powering both product families. Intel will ensure future product families are protected against the Vmin Shift Instability issue as well."
Originally, Intel's analysis for 13th—and 14th-generation processors indicated that stability issues stemmed from excessive voltage during processor operation. These voltage increases led to degradation, raising the minimum voltage necessary for stable performance, which Intel refers to as "Vmin shift." Given that the design phase of new architectures lasts for years, Intel has surely anticipated that the old power delivery could yield problems, and the upcoming CPU generations are now exempt from these issues, bringing stability once again to Intel's platforms. When these new products launch, all eyes will be on the platform's performance, but with a massive interest in stability testing from enthusiasts.
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Intel
Originally, Intel's analysis for 13th—and 14th-generation processors indicated that stability issues stemmed from excessive voltage during processor operation. These voltage increases led to degradation, raising the minimum voltage necessary for stable performance, which Intel refers to as "Vmin shift." Given that the design phase of new architectures lasts for years, Intel has surely anticipated that the old power delivery could yield problems, and the upcoming CPU generations are now exempt from these issues, bringing stability once again to Intel's platforms. When these new products launch, all eyes will be on the platform's performance, but with a massive interest in stability testing from enthusiasts.
29 Comments on Intel "Arrow Lake" and "Lunar Lake" Are Safe from Voltage Stability Issues, Company Reports
Don't forget they sold those bad batches to unsuspecting users :shadedshu:
And now we should simply believe them?
"When these new products launch, all eyes will be on the platform's performance, but with a massive interest in stability testing from enthusiasts."
Until the above happens along with a healthy dose of in depth reviews, no one is believing anything from Intel, except for the easily fooled of course.
1. There was the motherboard settings problem - despite Intel initially suspecting power limits, et was manufacturers and LLC settings, resulting in too low voltages for the highest end of boost clocks.
2. There was the via oxidation problem - which effectively results in fast degradation and leads to instability.
3. There is the excessive voltage issue due to flaw in the algorithm - and looks like it overvolted CPUs leading to fast degradation.
The new gen comes in with lower boost clocks, probably much better set voltage limits and they know better what to check for. Once you have the causes down things get much easier.
But again, taking my post out of context and injecting it into your time/age argument doesn't work. We need to actually SEE Intel's next iteration prior to jumping to conclusions. At that point, feel free to argue the merits (or lack)of time and age testing.
12th gen...great start. Have another cup o cocoa.
Where exactly did I say anything about trusting Intel? In fact I said, only a fool would at this point. You might try reading the entire thread before jumping in with your next earth shattering revelation.
Intel itself admitted the oxidation issue started about 2 years ago. I highly suspect that Intel would have covered these issues up indefinitely if they had not been made public. It took two major issues for the story to break, which is just nuts.
Suffice to say, no one should be taking Intel at it's word.