Monday, January 6th 2025
AMD Debuts Radeon RX 9070 XT and RX 9070 Powered by RDNA 4, and FSR 4
AMD at the 2025 International CES announced the Radeon RX 9070 XT and Radeon RX 9070 desktop performance-segment graphics cards. These will be the face of AMD's next generation of gaming graphics products, and will be powered by the new RDNA 4 graphics architecture. AMD hopes to launch both cards within Q1 2025. AMD changed the nomenclature of its gaming GPUs mainly because it has made a tactical retreat from the enthusiast graphics segment, its fastest products will compete in the performance segment. From the way AMD arranged the Radeon RX 9070 series and 9060 series product stack against the backdrop of the Radeon RX 7000 series, the GeForce RTX 4000 series, and the anticipated GeForce RTX 5000 series, the RX 9070 XT will offer performance roughly similar to the Radeon RX 7900 XT in raster, with the RX 9070 being slightly faster than the RX 7800 XT. The RX 9060 XT will beat the RX 7700 XT, while the RX 9060 beats the RX 7600 XT.
With RDNA 4, AMD claims generational SIMD performance increase on the RDNA 4 compute units. The 2nd Gen AI accelerators will boast of generational performance increase, and AMD will debut a locally-accelerated generative AI application down the line, called the AMD Adrenalin AI, which can generate images, summarize documents, and perform some linguistic/grammar tasks (rewriting), and serve as a chatbot for answering AMD-related queries. This is basically AMD's answer to NVIDIA Chat RTX. AMD's 3rd Gen Ray accelerator is expected to reduce the performance cost of ray tracing, by putting more of the ray tracing workload through dedicated hardware, offloading the SIMD engine. Lastly, AMD is expected to significantly upgrade the media acceleration and display I/O of its GPUs.
AMD also announced FidelityFX Super Resolution 4 (FSR 4), which has been developed for RDNA 4 (not sure if it will work on older generations of Radeon). It introduces a new machine learning (ML) based upscaling component to handle Super Resolution. This will be paired with Frame Generation, and an updated Anti-Lag 2, to make up the FSR 4 feature-set. Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 is confirmed to be one of the first titles to utilize FSR 4.
Nearly all AMD add-in board partners (AIBs) are ready with Radeon 9070 series graphics cards, including Acer, ASRock, ASUS, GIGABYTE, Sapphire, PowerColor, XFX, Vastarmor, and Yeston. MSI seems to have discontinued being an AMD AIB.
We also got our first peek at what the "Navi 48" GPU powering the Radeon RX 9070 series looks like—it features an unusual rectangular die with a 2:1 aspect ratio, which seems to lend plausibility to the popular theory that the "Navi 48" is two "Navi 44" dies joined at the hip with full cache-coherency. The GPU is rumored to feature a 256-bit GDDR6 memory interface, and 64 compute units (4,096 stream processors). The "Navi 44," on the other hand, is exactly half of this (128-bit GDDR6, 32 CU). AMD is building the "Navi 48" and "Navi 44" on the TSMC N4P (4 nm EUV) foundry node, on which it is building pretty much its entire current-generation, from mobile processors, to CPU chiplets.
With RDNA 4, AMD claims generational SIMD performance increase on the RDNA 4 compute units. The 2nd Gen AI accelerators will boast of generational performance increase, and AMD will debut a locally-accelerated generative AI application down the line, called the AMD Adrenalin AI, which can generate images, summarize documents, and perform some linguistic/grammar tasks (rewriting), and serve as a chatbot for answering AMD-related queries. This is basically AMD's answer to NVIDIA Chat RTX. AMD's 3rd Gen Ray accelerator is expected to reduce the performance cost of ray tracing, by putting more of the ray tracing workload through dedicated hardware, offloading the SIMD engine. Lastly, AMD is expected to significantly upgrade the media acceleration and display I/O of its GPUs.
We also got our first peek at what the "Navi 48" GPU powering the Radeon RX 9070 series looks like—it features an unusual rectangular die with a 2:1 aspect ratio, which seems to lend plausibility to the popular theory that the "Navi 48" is two "Navi 44" dies joined at the hip with full cache-coherency. The GPU is rumored to feature a 256-bit GDDR6 memory interface, and 64 compute units (4,096 stream processors). The "Navi 44," on the other hand, is exactly half of this (128-bit GDDR6, 32 CU). AMD is building the "Navi 48" and "Navi 44" on the TSMC N4P (4 nm EUV) foundry node, on which it is building pretty much its entire current-generation, from mobile processors, to CPU chiplets.
337 Comments on AMD Debuts Radeon RX 9070 XT and RX 9070 Powered by RDNA 4, and FSR 4
You can thank them for the shit show that mobile parts are in.That's just the same thing he's saying reworded in a different way.
By the way, AMD will never be able to compete against NVIDIA™ ACE™: no AMD user will be able to play with a great UBI X EA randomized IA NPC able to lecture him when he will misgender Justin Trudeau or Brigitte Macron, "Because it's not an opinion, but a crime".
Things don't change just because we want them to, if they can't deliver all the performance and features that's fine, just price accordingly. And waiting for nvidia to do the usual -$50 is just another nail in their coffin. They learned nothing. They will slowly die into oblivion.
www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/amd-research-suggests-plans-to-catch-up-to-nvidia-using-neural-supersampling-and-denoising-for-real-time-path-tracing
Not sure if the same applies to cooperative vector support?
devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/enabling-neural-rendering-in-directx-cooperative-vector-support-coming-soon/
The question for me is whether the 9070XT is worth it over the 9070?!
Like I said, market share, sales numbers, and profit are entirely separate entities. Vaguely connected, but separate.
It's not all about "performance" (as subjective as that is) is it, there's also features and stability, that's why the 7000 series failed. And things will only get worst, how are they going to get games to support their tech or optimise for their cards when they are irrelevant. Pour money into publishers?
The problem with the 7000 series was positioning and pricing, imo. The 7600 was a refreshed 6650 XT, the 7700 XT and 7900 XT were pointless next to the 7800 XT and 7900 XTX, and the 7800 XT got the wrong name, making people falsely believe that it was the not so much faster successor of the 6800 XT, when in fact, it was priced level with the 6700 XT while offering +50% performance. It's not a bad generation of products, it was just botched by crap marketing, as is typical with AMD.
You could find a zune if you searched or asked for it, and they had a price tag after all money is money, but they were difficult to find, and ipods were everywhere.
RX 7600 should have been R 7500S.
RX 7700 XT should have been RX 7600
RX 7800 XT should have been RX 7600 XT
RX 7900 XT should have been RX 7800
RX 7900 XTX should have been RX 7800 XT
and they should have released a refreshed Navi 31 under the RX 7900 XT name.:kookoo:
I would have been fine with a minimalist lineup. 7900XTX, 7900XT, 7800XT, 7700XT and it would have been perfectly okay. But no we're shuffling scraps.
When your competition is rich enough to buy multiple countries, I empathize with that a bit.
Still, they could have done significantly better in naming mCPUs and dGPUs.
I would keep everything vanilla, saving the X suffix for flagship and pull out XT for product refresh.
Everything else, professional or whatever. Vega? Radeon VII? Fury? Those stars have fizzled out.
The hail mary pass has passed. Scrap em all.
Encroach and scrap the ENTIRE bottom tier of EVERY PRODUCT STACK and start innovating again.
Ryzen R3 quad cores? Nah, start it off at R5 6c, R7 8c, R9 12c/16c...Introduce R11 as an absolutely overkill 32c/64t monster.
Give Threadripper and Epyc some uplift too while we're at it. Radeon R9/RX need to get gone for good.
Radeon is always going to be the base and I get that. UDNA is a unity goal between game and compute loads so it deserves a unity name.
Maybe something like Radeon RED or something menacing like Framereaver. Simple names up and down the stack that are two digits long.
I'm a simple guy.
I will give you a hint: 50% is nothing. AMD needs +200% in order to get some market share back . .