Friday, May 3rd 2024
Intel's Panther Lake CPU Generation on Track for Mid-2025 Release, AI Capabilities to See Significant Boost
Intel's CEO, Pat Gelsinger, has confirmed that the upcoming 18A process of the Panther Lake CPU generation is on schedule for a mid-2025 release, which aligns with the initial projection. This development marks a significant milestone in the company's ongoing efforts to integrate AI capabilities into its processors. The mid-2025 release date is expected to follow the debut of Intel's Arrow Lake process in late 2024 or early 2025, a release that holds the promise of significant advancements in AI computing. During Intel's Q1 2024 Quarterly Results, Gelsinger expressed confidence in the company's AI capabilities, stating that the Core Ultra platform currently delivers leadership AI performance and that the next-generation platforms, Lunar Lake and Arrow Lake, will launch later this year, tripling AI performance. He also mentioned that the Panther Lake generation, set to release in 2025, will grow AI performance up to an additional 2x.
The Panther Lake generation represents the culmination of three generations of work in a short time and is expected to continue Intel's iterative approach. This transition is marked by a shift from a hybrid architecture, a combination of different types of processors, to a disaggregated die, where different components of the processor are separated, as AI computing becomes increasingly prominent. This strategic move is aimed at optimizing AI performance and flexibility. This marks the third generation of the Intel Core Ultra series, following Ultra 100 (Meteor Lake), Ultra 200 (Arrow Lake), and Lunar Lake (200V). Intel's release strategy mirrors the pattern set by the Hybrid Architecture, with Alder Lake debuting in 2021, followed by Raptor Lake in 2022, and a refreshed Raptor Lake released last year to bridge the gap until LGA 1851 was ready. However, Intel's roadmap has seen adjustments in the past, such as the initial promise of an Arrow Lake release before the end of 2024, which was later retracted. The mid-2025 release of Panther Lake aligns with rumors of Arrow Lake's late 2024 or early 2025 debut, suggesting that the 18A process CPU generation could debut several months after Arrow Lake.
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TechRadar
The Panther Lake generation represents the culmination of three generations of work in a short time and is expected to continue Intel's iterative approach. This transition is marked by a shift from a hybrid architecture, a combination of different types of processors, to a disaggregated die, where different components of the processor are separated, as AI computing becomes increasingly prominent. This strategic move is aimed at optimizing AI performance and flexibility. This marks the third generation of the Intel Core Ultra series, following Ultra 100 (Meteor Lake), Ultra 200 (Arrow Lake), and Lunar Lake (200V). Intel's release strategy mirrors the pattern set by the Hybrid Architecture, with Alder Lake debuting in 2021, followed by Raptor Lake in 2022, and a refreshed Raptor Lake released last year to bridge the gap until LGA 1851 was ready. However, Intel's roadmap has seen adjustments in the past, such as the initial promise of an Arrow Lake release before the end of 2024, which was later retracted. The mid-2025 release of Panther Lake aligns with rumors of Arrow Lake's late 2024 or early 2025 debut, suggesting that the 18A process CPU generation could debut several months after Arrow Lake.
66 Comments on Intel's Panther Lake CPU Generation on Track for Mid-2025 Release, AI Capabilities to See Significant Boost
that the back fan keeps running 100% no matter what and has a kind of annoying noise to it. I hope dell can make the case more sleek in different colours, like fractal white and wood, black and wood and silver, grey etc. Maybe swapping the back fan for a larger diameter oneThat is not a reasonable comparisson you cant compare a fiat with a ferarri
Had Dell invested some real money to design a proper, good quality case, reviews would have been much better.The member talked about gaming efficiency on big core count CPU and mentioned vanilla 7950X as evidence against efficiency. I agreed with it for vanilla CPUs and replied that 7950X3D also exist, invalidating their point. So, you need to ask the member why they made that assumption in the first place by using 7950X, another 'ferarri', against 13400, a 'fiat'. Price talk is another topic.
Also do the same an AMD CPU and it will be more efficient still. Keep bending over backwards for Intel.
Also most Desktop motherboards have a lot of the power management features disabled by default.
So most of the time they are sitting at a couple dozen Watts idle if not more.
Also, give us a graph from that same article showing what happens to framerates at 35W and 65W. You get more efficient CPU in gaming, of course, but you lose so much performance, which makes entire 'efficiency' business nonsense.
At 35W, 14900K becomes 10400F or 3700X in gaming performance and 89% slower than 7800X3D in 720p testing
At 65W, 14900K becomes 5800X3D or 7600 in gaming performance and 25% slower than 7800X3D in 720p testing, and it is still less efficient
www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-14900k-raptor-lake-tested-at-power-limits-down-to-35-w/3.html
Would you change power limit in BIOS and run 14900K efficiently in gaming at 65W?
I make sure the voltage / Loadline sent the VRM is the ball park of the CPU VID as well.
My CPU pulls around 25~30W idle when the package power says 10W.
At load they match much better, with the VRM output power slightly higher than the report package power accounting for power plain lost.
as my x51 who has a 3770 with a 1660
Intel Core Ultra 9 285K "Arrow Lake" Desktop CPU Rumored To Clock Around 5.5 GHz (wccftech.com)
Of course these are rumors/leaks so far. Related to the topic on hand, Intel is concentrating on AI capabilities (NPU), E cores and iGPU. The P cores are being clocked down, stripped of functionality (lower IPC) and made less multithreaded (no HT). I do believe that the overall package will be very power efficiency starting with Arrow Lake and then progressing to Panther Lake and beyond. It is also possible the focus on AI is to cover up problems with the manufacturing nodes. The 20A or smaller nodes might not be working very well with large, high clocked tiles yet.
It's the HW makers' new buzzword so everyone would buy their AI PCs :laugh:
What I'm curious is Zen5's and Core Ultra 200 series cpus' gaming performance, compression, audio/video encoding speed/time and power consumption and price. For me everything else is marketing BS.
The VRM on the high-end boards are often quite inefficient at idle because they are so over-built.
Besides all this noise, when i imagine myself being a senior intel cpu engineer or product manager whatever you like, it wouldnt be a bad idea,
to use some of the embedded ai computing ability to better auto tune the power curve wouldnt it be?
Besides a company who in my opinion does a fair job in auto tuning is zotac with its firestorm application for gpus.
Most people don't expect (or don't care) how much power their case fans, RGB, and AIO pumps etc draw.
AMD does have the SVI2/3 TFN sensors on die to priovide die sense voltage and power.
I assume this is because AMD shares the CCD designs with Data Center and Desktop Replacement Laptops.
Personally i dont need AI.
If I don't need to add another 100W to PC usage, I won't, as there are products out there that do exactly that, and often for less money.You have Ryzen with 16 big cores. On Intel, you can switch off e-cores in BIOS.True that, but not necessarily for local and regional power grids around the world.
Total installation of Nvidia AI systems by the end of 2024 is expected to consume up to 15 Gigawatt hours of energy, almost twice as much as annual production of the largest nuclear power plant in the world. A thing for thought.